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Wasting Our Talent
by ianrthorpe @ 2008-06-16 - 19:24:18

Every now and again I see an aricle written by someone who thinks they are a real smartarse that displays such a total lack of awareness of the realities of life I just find myself thinking "is the purpose of higher eduation to take bright people and turn them into fuckwits?"

Such and article was Talent Going To Waste an irrational whine from a writer on the hand wringing, wailing and gnashing of teeth extreme of the woolly brained left.

This article bemoaned the fact that immigrants with good degrees from Universities in their homeland are unable to find employment related to their degree subject in this country and are having to work as shelf stackers, burger - flippers and office cleaners.

The writer berated British society for this terrible waste of talent and for treating these people so disrespectully.

FUCK ME, WHAT PLANET DOES THIS SILLY TART LIVE ON.

There are plenty of English people, including my daughter and a couple of her friends, who have excellent degrees from good Universities and yet cannot get employment related to their specialist subject. This is not because of institutionalised racism or any other kind of bollocks the Political Correctness Police like to bang on about. It is because of the failure of the lunacies of free market economics.

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jackfrostjackfrost pro
16/06/08 @ 19:39

to true, My friends daughter wanted to be a doctor and had all A's in the required exams and had to go for an interview. neither she nor three of her friends got a place despite having the required grades...why because firstly 60% of the places had gone to fee paying forieners.20% of the places went to doctors siblings and the reat there were 10 candidates for every one place left remaining, this country moans thast there are not enough doctors well bloody let the citizans of this country have first pickings ...makes me soooooo mad!!!

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Paul Duffy [Visitor]

17/06/08 @ 01:31

Does bring up the point though: yes, a lot of these people have qualified in universities in their home countries, but that doesn't mean they're any better than Luton (sorry, Bedfordshire) Uni. There's a reason there are so many foreign students in UK universities; despite the number of Mickey Mouse degrees offered by some there's still a lot of quality educational establishments out there that attract a lot of the brains from other countries that want the best education they can get.

As a basic example, I'm currently on my second attempt at getting through a degree course without my illness stuffing it up and this time I'm at the old Birmingham Poly (which was called Birmingham City University last I checked, they might have changed it again, you never know) and there's assorted Africans (one guy I know is from Zanzibar (in Tanzania), another from Kenya) and a ton of Chinese from Nanjing. Now, you go up the road from where I live to Warwick Uni and there's people from all over the place.

So really, given that there's so many people coming from so many different countries to qualify here despite the often unfunny state of education in this country, why does anyone think a degree from an institution in another country instantly makes them as qualified as anyone graduating from even just the average Unis in this country? Would they accept a certificate from the University of Phoenix? No, seriously, I can't be arsed working for it if I can use a fake one :op

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ianrthorpeianrthorpe [Member]
17/06/08 @ 19:40

Paul,
University of Phoenix? I didn't know Peter Kay had opened a University :D I agree though, we probably have too many Universities now, and as fatsally says kids are cajoled into attending when they would be better furthering their education through night school or day release until they find their niche.

Having said that, not only do we have in Oxford, Cambridge, London and Edinburgh some of the best Universities in the world but there are many other excellent establishments such as Manchester, Liverpool, Birmingham, Warwick, Sheffield, Bristol, Hull, Durham etc.

Such colleges such as these were not created to provide degrees in plumbing or leisure centre management. There are many occupations where on the job training is still the best way to learn the trade.

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ianrthorpeianrthorpe [Member]
17/06/08 @ 19:30

Its a common story Jack. but instead of seeing the whole problem many people only want to look at the problems of immigrants.
Political Correctness must not only be done but must be seen to be done.

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rithompsonrithompson [Member]
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16/06/08 @ 20:22

Don't go to university for the job prospects - go there to learn instead! :D

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fatsallyfatsally [Member]
17/06/08 @ 17:56

That would certainly be the best plan, but what are kids meant to do when they are co-erced and cajoled into going to uni whether it is suitable for them or not?
How many times have we seen headlines that state how much more you are likely to earn if you have a degree?
I have to say in my village we do boast a window cleaner with a Ph.D. and a newsagent with a B.A. Hons and a PGCE.

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rithompsonrithompson [Member]
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17/06/08 @ 18:01

Plenty of times. Mostly my former Uni's adverts on trains!

:))

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ianrthorpeianrthorpe [Member]
17/06/08 @ 19:28

I thought a PhD was an essential qualification for being a window cleaner - I mean, you need a philosophical mindset when most of your life is spent on a ladder.

Actually I described your village newsagent recently, in a comment on a Guardian post, as having quit teaching to set up a media agency.

That's management skills for you.

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ianrthorpeianrthorpe [Member]
17/06/08 @ 19:21

That used to be the idea Ros - til Thatcher sneaked market forces in by stealth.

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